This episode of the Justice Today Podcast, the official podcast of the Bureau of Justice Assistance (BJA), features a conversation with a former White House Fellow. 

Chris Poulos, director of Person-Centered Services for the Washington State Department of Corrections, joins host Karen Friedman, Director of Criminal Justice Innovation, Development and Engagement at BJA, to share lessons learned during his remarkable personal journey from incarceration to lawyer and White House Fellow to senior corrections policymaker in the State of Washington.

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